Sarasota Citizens Grand Jury Disputed by Private Investigator Bill Warner as Linked to Sovereign Citizen Movement

Thursday, October 22, 2015

Sarasota Citizens Grand Jury proposed by Rodger Dowdell, a Tea Party activist who denies being a sovereign citizen but, nonetheless, spouts sovereign citizen rhetoric says “Grand jury powers come from God.” Rodger Dowdell is the state coordinator for the National Liberty Alliance which touts the Citizens Grand Jury.

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Pat Shewmake Wayman is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Pat Shewmake Wayman and others you may know. Pat Wayman aka Pat Shewmake Wayman the charter board member, posted a petition Oct. 12 on her Facebook page calling for Obama’s arrest on murder and treason charges, and she has also posted videos questioning whether mass shootings were staged in Sandy Hook and Oregon. She also promotes the pro-gun extremist III Percent group and warns against a United Nations takeover of the United States through its non-binding Agenda 21 agreement. Fields, the other charter board member, expresses conservative political views that are a bit more mainstream — with posts expressing his love for guns, law enforcement, the military, Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart and Ronald Reagan — but he also voted for Dowdell’s measure, see RAW STORY


Sovereign Citizen Guru John Darash aka John Vidurek and National Lib­erty Alliance Sets Up Vigilante Peoples Grand Juries In USA With Assist From Posse Comitatus.  The sovereign citizen movement arose from the ashes of the Posse Comitatus, a 1970s extremist racist group that believed the County (and the Sheriff) was the highest seat of government because all other levels of government had engaged in a conspiracy to destroy and override the Constitution. Sovereign citizens believe that the United States government is illegitimate and operating outside of its jurisdiction. According to sovereign citizen theory, the United States was once governed by “common law,” when everyone was a sovereign, not subject to any oppressive laws, taxes, or regulations, these are John Darash’s National Lib­erty Alliance beliefs. At some point, the United States departed from the “common law” system, replacing it with admiralty law, which governs the sea and international commerce. Because of this, sovereign citizens do not recognize the United States or state law, believing that the change to admiralty law marked the transition of the United States from government to corporation.

John Darash, seen above at a Tea Party rally in 2011 labeled a sovereign citizen guru by the Anti-Defamation League last year.

John Darash aka John Vidurek
Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury
Box 59 Valhalla, New York 10595 

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John Darash aka John Vidurek, 63, Hyde Park NY north of Poughkeepsie. John Darash created a buzz early on because he appeared to be someone with almost no background….no axe to grind.  It turns out he is just like Bill Windsor and all his other sovereign citizen buddies (don’t call us sovereign citizens we are citizens who are sovereign) in that he engages in his favorite from of anti-american terrorism:  paper terrorism. John Darash aka John Vidurek and his wife Kimberly, didn’t pay their taxes and when the IRS tried to levy against them they sued the IRS and involved IRS agents as party of a conspiracy. You see, they don’t have to pay taxes because the IRS isn’t real. Me the People have declared that null and void.

Back on September 30th, 2015 I was on ABC 7 Sarasota with Alan Cohn’s News at 7:00 pm discussing, with Charter Review Board member Pat Wayman, the Sovereign Citizen groups attempt to infiltrate local politics with their bizarre ‘Citizens Grand Jury’. Pat Wayman at the time claimed no knowledge of any link between the violent Sovereign Citizen Group and the Citizens Grand Jury, today, October 19th, it has been learned that she is now pushing the idea for the Citizens Grand Jury, Two members of Sarasota County’s Charter Review Board Pat Wayman and Steven R. Fields have not given up on the so-called Sovereign Citizen “people’s common law grand jury.” 

VIDEO ABC-7 SOVEREIGN CITIZENS IN SARASOTA-BRADENTON FL.  ABC-7 SARASOTA FL: Sovereign Citizens number in the “hundreds” on the Suncoast. “Anyone who thinks the Suncoast is immune to the actions of sovereign citizens is being naive.”  Those are the words of Bill Warner, a Sarasota private detective whose been aware of the Sovereign Citizen movement for years. “It’s people with a mindset that the government is against its own citizens,” Bill Warner explained. Bill Warner is sad (mad) the movement has spilled over into violence twice in the past week, both with a courthouse incident last Friday in Atlanta where Dennis Marx shot a deputy before being shot and killed himself.  And then the Sunday shooting of two officers and a Walmart shopper in Las Vegas. He says make no mistake, this is domestic terrorism. “Absolutely, it’s organized through the internet, and Facebook, and that’s how they get bigger an bigger, Bill Warner said.

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A Florida county is considering changes to its charter review board after two elected members have focused on punishing political enemies through extralegal tactics instead of government business. The Sarasota County charter review board typically proposes minor changes to the county charter when they meet three times a year, but critics say two of its members — Pat Wayman and Steven R. Fields — have been using their positions to usurp authority from other elected officials, reported the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. The pair have voted to establish a “people’s common law grand jury,” which sovereign citizens and other anti-government extremists have proposed to investigate and prosecute government officials for treason — which, as they frequently point out, carries a potential death penalty.

“Take a look at the French Revolution and what took place there,” said Mike Bolam, who has attended charter review board meetings to support the common law grand juries. The board voted 4-4 in May to study a proposal by Rodger Dowdell, a Tea Party activist who denies being a sovereign citizen but, nonetheless, spouts sovereign citizen rhetoric. “Grand jury powers come from God,” Roger Dowdell said, advocating a return to the post-Revolution legal system where there were no police departments and judges rode horseback to hear cases brought by groups of 25 citizens. Most importantly, he told the Herald-Tribune, those rulings would be kept out of reach of presidential and even U.S. Supreme Court authority.

“A people’s common law grand jury can, without any probable cause, go into any nook or cranny of government — local, state or federal — research anything that’s going on and root out corruption,” Roger Dowdell said. “We want to government to recognize the contract we call the constitution, and start obeying the law. It’s very simple.” His proposal failed due to the tie vote. Tea Party activists have been trying to set up common law grand juries, which don’t actually carry any legal authority, for years in hopes of convicting — and hanging — President Barack Obama for treason. Dowdell, state coordinator of the right-wing National Liberty Alliance, claims a common law grand jury was already operating in Manatee County, Florida, but he offered no proof. “I can’t talk about it,” he said. “Everything is secret. In order to keep innocents who may be investigated from being damaged, whatever a grand jury does is secret.”

Two members of Sarasota County’s Charter Review Board Pat Wayman and Steven R. Fields have not given up on the so-called Sovereign Citizen “people’s common law grand jury.” As a result, the floodgates have opened. At the board’s meeting Wednesday, most of the group’s time was spent on the controversial issue. A group of speakers explained what it means — that everyday citizens could, on their own, indict government officials for corruption without any official assistance or oversight — even though the concept would violate state law.

The Southern Poverty Law Center estimates the Sovereign Citizens movement is up to 300,000 people, and Bill Warner says that should break down to several hundred along the Suncoast. “I’m sure it grew even more so after the Sarasota Police Detective was fired,” he said. Bill Warner is referring to a former homicide detective Tom Laughlin who lost his job in 2010 after declaring himself a sovereign citizen. “I’m sure more people will use that as a reason to join this moment because he was fired because of his views of being a sovereign citizen, who that really stokes it up,” Bill Warner said.


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