UPDATED Jailhouse Groupie Heidi Ley in Sarasota Maintains That Serial Killer Charles Manson Was Not A Deranged Killer and His Satanic Mystique Is Overblown, Good Grief.

Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Charles Manson is a convicted serial killer who has become an icon of evil. In the late 1960s, Manson founded a hippie cult group known as “the Family” whom he manipulated into brutally killing others on his behalf.

Charles Manson told four of his followers to go to 10050 Cielo Drive in Los Angeles and kill the people inside. This house once belonged to Terry Melcher, the man who had not helped Manson with his music career. However, Melcher no longer lived there; actress Sharon Tate and her husband, director Roman Polanski, had rented the house. On August 9, 1969, four of Manson’s followers brutally murdered Tate, her unborn baby, and four others who were visiting her (Polanski was in Europe for work). The following night, Manson’s followers brutally killed Leno and Rosemary LaBianca in their home.

It took the police several months to determine who was responsible. In December 1969, Manson and several of his followers were arrested. The trial began on July 24, 1970. On January 25, Manson was found guilty of first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. On March 29, 1971, Manson was sentenced to death.

Charlie Mansons’ “family” of girls are/were Mary Brunner, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten and Lynette “Squeeky” Fromme who tried to kill President Gerald Ford.

JAILHOUSE GROUPIE AND SERIAL KILLER GROUPIE; Taking up her role in the “family” of serial killer Charles Manson is Sarasota jailhouse groupie Heidi Ley, she now plans to prove “Charlie” is not the monster the L.A. DA made him out to be, continue reading her nonsense below in the Herald Tribune article. 

SARASOTA HERLAD TRIBUNE…Heidi Ley is on a first-name basis with the man whose image is synonymous with psycho killer. She calls him Charlie. She says, “Charlie gets so much mail, he usually just scans it and gives it away to other inmates.” Sometimes he mails it to Heidi. “Kind of wild, isn’t it?”Heidi Ley immersed herself in the Manson literature, her stacked books now scribbled with notes and frilled with color-coded post-it stickers. Bottom line: “She’s convinced the satanic mystique is overblown” (what a misguided person this woman is). The book ‘The Retrial of Charles Manson’ by journalist Daniel Simone and Heidi Ley.

It is so wild that her husband, Alex Ley, doesn’t bother to answer their land-line phone these days. He lets Heidi grab it. Because it might be Manson.  “I don’t think Charlie’s a nice guy — he’s not,” says Ley. “But is he the monster the DA made him out to be? No. The evidence doesn’t add up.” (What the Hell?) In 2009, she got laid off in a wave of cutbacks while working at Vengroff Williams & Associates. Instead of imploding, Ley wondered if it might be an opportunity in disguise. “I thought, well, OK, maybe now I can write my book.”

Last year, Heid Ley was approved for a prison visit. She put her name on the guest list of one of Manson’s inmate friends, Frank Reichard, to circumvent additional red tape. In August 2010, she drove a rental car north from Bakersfield, across 60 miles of desolate rolling scrub and high desert. She wound up at the razor wire fences and guard towers of Corcoran State Prison, the last stop for mass murderer Juan Corona, Robert Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan, and “Wall of Sound” producer Phil Spector.

“I told him about the book and he said ‘As long as you get the information about ATWA in there, that’s all I care about.'” No rants. No crazy dance. She gave him her address and phone number. Their first meeting was over within 30 minutes.

Mostly, she says, Manson rambles about the environment. “He’s not religious,” Ley says, “but he talks about God a lot, about how people take and take and take without giving back, and that they’re all going to have to be accountable and face the Lord someday.” Heidi Ley says her research does nothing to refute Manson’s profile as a manipulative misfit. But she also maintains he’s not a deranged killer (OMG).

(Sarasota Jailhouse groupie ) Heidi Ley says her primary goal is to prove Vincent Bugliosi’s helter-skelter theory was a frame-up. “He gave the polygraph test to every suspect but wouldn’t give one to Charles Manson. “Manson was a sociopath, and sociopaths don’t normally respond to lie detector tests because they don’t feel they’ve done anything wrong,”  Vincent Bugliosi says, MORE FROM THIS SOURCE..

DAILY MAIL ….For the second time in two years, Charles Manson has been caught with a cellphone smuggled to him inside the California prison where he’s serving life sentences for the notorious slayings of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others in 1969.  Guards found the phone, Jan. 6, 2011, at Corcoran State Prison, in central California, the state corrections department said. Prison officials did not reveal whom Manson phoned or texted. In March 2009, guards found another phone under his mattress. Officials revealed he had called or texted people in California, Florida, New Jersey, and British Columbia, Canada.

Jailhouse groupie’s like this Heidi Ley in Sarasota Florida are dangerous to future generations as she trys to re-write and white-wash the history of one of the most sadistic serial killers of all times, Charles Manson.  Heidi Ley appears to have nurtured an attachment for convicted serial killer “Charlie” (Manson) as she calls him, during her three visits to prison, she makes note of one trip in August 2010, and his repeated phone calls to her home………AND WHO SMUGGLED A CELL PHONE INTO “CHARLIE MANSON?

JAILHOUSE GROUPIE AND SERIAL KILLER GROUPIE; It’s not always clear whether the phrase “serial killer groupie,” refers to people who just love the idea of a serial killer and would be aroused by any sort of contact, or more strictly to those who have become attached to a specific killer.

In any event, serial killers prove to be magnets for some people, mostly (but not always) females, and experts have offered a variety of reasons why. Among them are:

  • Rescue fantasies: the SKG wants to believe that she has the ability to change someone as cruel and powerful as a serial killer.
  • Need to nurture: many women have said that they see the little boy in these killers and feel an overwhelming desire to nurture and protect that part of him.
  • The perfect boyfriend: she knows where he is at all times, and while she can now claim that someone loves her, she does not have to endure the day-to-day issues of most relationships; she can keep the fantasy charged up for a long time.
  • Need for drama: during the trial, the daily events in the lives of serial killers may attract women who want to get close to the adversarial atmosphere and the possibility that something surprising may occur.
  • Hybristophilia: some people are sexually excited by others who commit violence
  • Exclusivity: there’s a real sense of ownership of the facts about the killers—which confers its own special status—among those who feel intimately associated with them
  • Regaining the lost male: some who have been abused, neglected or without a father figure look to the killer to fill that need
  • Vicarious fantasies: some wish to live out their own visions of violence through a person who can actually act them out
  • Low self-esteem: some women believe they cannot find a man and since men in prison are desperately lonely, it’s an easy way to get involved
  • Attention: when they do something like get involved with a killer, people talk about them and often the media puts a spotlight on them
  • Eminence: they evolve from Nobodies into Somebodies
  • The chance to show their mettle: they align themselves against the world in a heated defense of their beloved
  • Beauty and the Beast syndrome: they like the idea of getting close to danger that will probably not hurt them, but there’s always the slight chance

Interestingly, many SKGs are educated and attractive. Some have money, and some are already married. Quite a few are mothers, and it’s often the case that they work in some related field, such as psychology or law enforcement.


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